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Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2075	Posted - 2014.03.26 20:14:00 - [1] - Quote Erotica 1 wrote: But he posts info about me online anyway. Whatever. Some people just can't be reasonable, as we see everyday in this game of ours. I still like Goons. That's no secret. I'm not going to hate a huge alliance/coalition because of a handful of guys made some trumped up charges against me and continue to troll made up things about me on an almost daily basis in the forums. How many times have you seen a reference to "mayo," under aged pics, and other "creepy" things that never happened? You see it all the time. This "creepy" buzzword is straight out of the rightwing political playbook. Hey, say something enough and people are bound to believe you. It's no secret that I'm a huge James 315 and Mittens fan (totally different people.) None of this silly bullshit is going to change that. On my EVE bucket list is to make "Massively" headlines. Oops, I meant to do it for something else. Oh well. LOL Let's talk about the CSM running. A lot of my EVE friends want me to drop out for fear of my personal safety. They are probably right. I don't really fear any of these lunatics threatening or wishing crazy ways to die upon me. But you know what, I do have concerns for my wife and son. This is a video game people. Though I gotta say, if I had to choose, it would be much better than dying of lung cancer, which is quite likely eventually. If some loon killed me at Fanfest over fake spaceship money, especially at the encouragement of all these "white knight carebear moral highground people," then I think some interesting things would happen for the better broadly speaking. Just please, I only ask CCP keep my bounty intact and pass my play money and assets over to James 315 for the improvement of highsec. I will be dropping out of the running, but not for any of those reasons. I totally derped and forgot that my passport is long expired. There is no way I can get a scanned copy in by the deadline now. Oh well, there's always next year. Believe it or not, if we can get past all this silly nonsense, I think most people would be surprised at how I would actually represent them pretty well. I mean, I'm totally cool with a copy of my driver's license and some agreement that if I win I just sit over here in the 'States and don't get a free trip to Iceland. In light of events, it would be cool of CCP to offer to keep my name anonymous. I'd also like CCP to openly address the bonus round and tell me what they would like me to do. CCP doesn't need to be silently monitoring (laughing?) and then make some surprise judgement. I've said many times, just tell me what you guys want. I love CCP and this great game that has outlasted so many others- because of its very nature. Want to tell me limits for bonus rounds? That's cool. Want me to stop them altogether? Not as fun, but hey I'd respect that. I do still plan on running a legitimate EVE bank anyway very soon! I'll keep everyone posted on that. Let's all have a civil discourse, CCP included. Thanks for your time. -Ero Just a though Ero, how would you like it if your son had a speech impediment and folk made fun of him for it? This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2075	Posted - 2014.03.26 22:31:00 - [2] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: James Amril-Kesh wrote: Tarojan wrote: James Amril-Kesh wrote: Hi, my name is Joe. I have a reputation for kicking small children in the face. A week ago this boy of age 7 stood in front of me in the grocery store line so I kicked him in the face. Kid should have known better than to stand in front of me, after all I do have a reputation. To punish his stupidity I kicked him in the face and stomach several more times. real life...game....real life...game.... You having troubles telling the difference between the two bud? You seem to be having trouble telling where they separate. If you torment someone for hours on a voice chat to the point where you're systematically attacking things like speech impediments, then it certainly has gone too far and crossed into the point of torment. At which point you click on an X (or pull a plug out of the wall) and it's over. This is one of the problems with modern society: no one expects grown folks to take care of themselves anymore. Dear Jenn Awhine, as usual you miss the point, it is not the scamming which was the problem but the making fun of a person's speech impediment which was taking things too far. Still, Jenn, you gotta sound tough all the time, or you would lose face with the hard-man trolls in the game. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2077	Posted - 2014.03.26 23:01:00 - [3] - Quote What Ero did probably has nothing to do with the ToS or the EULA, but a could cause some really negative publicity for CCP. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2077	Posted - 2014.03.26 23:10:00 - [4] - Quote Vaju Enki wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: What Ero did probably has nothing to do with the ToS or the EULA, but a could cause some really negative publicity for CCP. No, it's the other way around, CCP will get alot of new "good" players, this is EvE Online not some childish two digit-iq themepark carebear game. You may think that making fun of a person's speech impediment is being an Eve tough guy, I do not. If this means I want a childish, theme park care bear game, then I accept that description. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2078	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:01:00 - [5] - Quote It was the making fun of a person's speech impediment which crossed the line, not the scam. It is for this reason that I would like to see Ero banned from the game, it would also serve as a line in the sand (box) to let folk know that there are some types of behaviour which are beyond the pale even for Eve Online. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2080	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:55:00 - [6] - Quote Do any of the folk speaking up for Ero think that the making fun of a person's speech impediment was acceptable? I would like to think that even the most ardent 'Eve Online laissez faire' folk find the part of that whole sorry episode unacceptable. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2080	Posted - 2014.03.27 08:23:00 - [7] - Quote lollerwaffle wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Do any of the folk speaking up for Ero think that the making fun of a person's speech impediment was acceptable? I would like to think that even the most ardent 'Eve Online laissez faire' folk find the part of that whole sorry episode unacceptable. Do you think that the 'victim' using racist and homophobic language, or issuing RL death threats was acceptable? Both are in the wrong. No one should be banned just because someone 'feels offended', which is actually how this silly threadnaught got started. Cause and effect. The mark should not have resorted to the sort of language he used. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2082	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:08:00 - [8] - Quote Seven Koskanaiken wrote: So has anyone actually called the police yet? Called the Police what? This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2083	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:14:00 - [9] - Quote This is well on the way to being the longest thread ever! CCP should end this, then we can all go back to hating miners. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2086	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:28:00 - [10] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Myriad Blaze wrote: baltec1 wrote: PinkPanter wrote: Maybe but it's within game rules and it stays in CCP controlled environment. That's what I am talking about yet you all defend somebody going RL and publicly with humiliation in mind. ** man just send me Wester Union transfer. I'll ***** quadruple it. In the 200 and whatever pages of this thread nobody can name what EULA and TOS rules E1 has broken. Everything that E1 did in that recording are things that have taken place for the last decade. Not entirely correct. For example: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4398173#post4398173 (There were others, too. It just was easier to find my own post.) E1 did not harrass, insult or use racial and threatening language. The contestant, however, did. E1 did not gain any out of game service for isk either. We have ransomed songs out of Devs before, its perfectly fine. Baltec, you have not mentioned the part where they made fun of the mark for having a speech impediment, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you do not approve of that part at least. Again, when it comes to the marks intemperate use of language, he was provoked and reacted badly, which he should not have done in an ideal world. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2086	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:07:00 - [11] - Quote There is a lot of talk about how the mark could have stopped the whole thing at any point. So could Ero, either Ero did not know he was taking it too far, in which case well... or, he did know and chose to continue, in which case he would be no loss to Eve Online should he be removed from the game. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2086	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:17:00 - [12] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: There is a lot of talk about how the mark could have stopped the whole thing at any point. So could Ero, either Ero did not know he was taking it too far, in which case well... or, he did know and chose to continue, in which case he would be no loss to Eve Online should he be removed from the game. Ero is not responsible for Sohkar. Sohkar is. If Sohkar didn't like it, he should not have consented to it, and should have withdrawn consent (disconnected) when he found he didn't like it. Sohkar is a grown man. Ero could have stopped the whole thing at any point, but he chose to continue, so if CCP decides to take any action against him, then he is also responsible for the consequences. I assume Ero is a grown man. Edited for clarity This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2090	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:30:00 - [13] - Quote Big Lynx wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: The game rating is irrelvent. If you are a child or incompetent you shouldn't be playing it. Tell me please, which specific competence do I need for mining veldspar? High boredom threshold This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2091	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:40:00 - [14] - Quote The scam part is fine, this is the part that isn't acceptable for me, and why I consider the bahaviour of Ero and his buddies to be beyond the pale. "...Early in the proceedings, the victim admits to having a minor speech impediment that quickly becomes apparent. One of the instigators pounces on this and suggests that any word the victim cannot pronounce properly, he be made to look up the definition for and read that definition as well..." The above quote is taken from Jester's blog on the subject. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2091	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:44:00 - [15] - Quote lollerwaffle wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: The scam part is fine, this is the part that isn't acceptable for me, and why I consider the bahaviour of Ero and his buddies to be beyond the pale. "...Early in the proceedings, the victim admits to having a minor speech impediment that quickly becomes apparent. One of the instigators pounces on this and suggests that any word the victim cannot pronounce properly, he be made to look up the definition for and read that definition as well..." The above quote is taken from Jester's blog on the subject. Did you listen to the recording? Nope, I have really bad hearing in real life, are you saying that Jester made that part up? This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2093	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:53:00 - [16] - Quote Danalee wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: lollerwaffle wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: The scam part is fine, this is the part that isn't acceptable for me, and why I consider the bahaviour of Ero and his buddies to be beyond the pale. "...Early in the proceedings, the victim admits to having a minor speech impediment that quickly becomes apparent. One of the instigators pounces on this and suggests that any word the victim cannot pronounce properly, he be made to look up the definition for and read that definition as well..." The above quote is taken from Jester's blog on the subject. Did you listen to the recording? Nope, I have really bad hearing in real life, are you saying that Jester made that part up? He kinda made a big elephant out of a small little fly, let's keep it at that. And only on that part. The rest, he's just going all overboard with conjecture and bullshit in spades. D. If Jester is telling porkie pies, then he should be called to account for it. I am sure CCP would take a dim view of a member of the CSM telling lies to blacken the good name of an Eve Online player. Those who claim Jester if being cavalier with the truth in the quote I used from his blog need to put up or shut up. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2094	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:03:00 - [17] - Quote Crumplecorn wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: The scam part is fine, this is the part that isn't acceptable for me, and why I consider the bahaviour of Ero and his buddies to be beyond the pale. "...Early in the proceedings, the victim admits to having a minor speech impediment that quickly becomes apparent. One of the instigators pounces on this and suggests that any word the victim cannot pronounce properly, he be made to look up the definition for and read that definition as well..." The above quote is taken from Jester's blog on the subject. Amazing, you quote that as if it is an authoritative source, rather than listening to the recording, which is linked in that very blog. It's like you actively don't want to know true things. Do keep up dear... This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2096	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:29:00 - [18] - Quote Lady Areola Fappington wrote: LordOfDespair wrote: Lady Areola Fappington wrote: wot can I say, I got mah crazy stalkers! Even more amusing, he's Evemailed the CSM and MAJOR GAMING NOOZ WEBSITES over it. It makes me feel wanted. Go away creep. Don't be a hater, be a congradulater! Hey, last ER shift I saved a dude who managed to OD himself on ******. You done anything good in life recently? (Sorry fellow forum warriors, just couldn't resist it!) I helped my neighbour, who is not able to walk very well carry her shopping up some stairs earlier today. Does that count? This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2096	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:32:00 - [19] - Quote I would suggest that CCP is unlikely to perma ban Ero for his actions, but will instead provide guidelines which will further define what is acceptable and what is not. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2096	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:55:00 - [20] - Quote Andski wrote: NPC Alts Say The Dumbest Things Usually in the hope that it will qualify them to join the goons This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2096	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:59:00 - [21] - Quote On the good side, this is, by some considerable distance the most open forum discussion for a long time where folk can say what they want without having to be over polite to each-other. Super! This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2102	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:37:00 - [22] - Quote If only folk were so passionate about voting for the CSM, we really could have those elected representing more than a small fraction of the player base. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2103	Posted - 2014.03.28 07:07:00 - [23] - Quote What baffles me, is why anyone who has been playing Eve more more than a week would do anything but laugh at Ero. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2103	Posted - 2014.03.28 07:12:00 - [24] - Quote Mario Putzo wrote: Remove Ripard from CSM! Send me 10 billion isk and he will be gone in the next few weeks. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2105	Posted - 2014.03.28 07:37:00 - [25] - Quote A question for Ero, do you feel that you dealt inappropriately with the marks speech impediment? This for me was were you behaved badly, the scam etc were fine and worthy of of Eve Online. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2105	Posted - 2014.03.28 07:40:00 - [26] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Kyperion wrote: Here's a song for you cyber-thugs: *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDN4L7cAQf0* See you in Valkyrie if it ever comes out and if you dare I've been learning to fly and flying for 24 years. My father is a Lt Colonel in the Royal Australian Army, 1 Aviation, Com/Sigint, and I am fortunate enough to have logged over a thousand hours each on F/A-18C and F-111G flight simulators thanks to his influence. I was there for all the combat flight sims on PC including Microsoft's series, Falcon 2.0 and 4.0, currently invest dozens of hours a week in DCS, and have played many others including space sims such as the Xwing Series, Wing Commander, and Freespace. I also have 3400 hours in real fixed wing aircraft, both prop and jet, single and multi, including avionics certifications, and 17 hours in rotary. I look forward to it. Thank you so much for sharing your personal (albeit boring) details with us. None of us really exist outside of Eve Online. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2105	Posted - 2014.03.28 07:43:00 - [27] - Quote Erotica 1 wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: A question for Ero, do you feel that you dealt inappropriately with the marks speech impediment? This for me was were you behaved badly, the scam etc were fine and worthy of of Eve Online. Fully addressed in the stream, along with my own speech impediment and that of close friends. Sorry, but as I have rather poor hearing in real life, the stream is not an option for me. However, I can read, so I would be grateful is you would post your answer here This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2107	Posted - 2014.03.28 09:38:00 - [28] - Quote Erotica 1 wrote: Infinity, you still have not answered my repeated questions over numerous threads. Your personality and viewpoints took dramatic turns in the forums for anyone who cares to analyze your post history. I half joking asked if you sold your character and you never responded even with a troll. Thoughts? And you have not answered my question: do you think you abuse the fact that your mark had a speech impediment in any way? This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2107	Posted - 2014.03.28 10:03:00 - [29] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Erotica 1 wrote: Infinity, you still have not answered my repeated questions over numerous threads. Your personality and viewpoints took dramatic turns in the forums for anyone who cares to analyze your post history. I half joking asked if you sold your character and you never responded even with a troll. Thoughts? And you have not answered my question: do you think you abuse the fact that your mark had a speech impediment in any way? Many people are able to overcome their speech impediment by frequently speaking. Shame on you for attempting to take away this mans right of self-improvement. I shall assume that you are not a complete moron, and that your answer was intended to be funny This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2107	Posted - 2014.03.28 10:08:00 - [30] - Quote Erotica 1 wrote: Oh that is rich... lol Check the local logs man lmao Did you, or did you not take advantage of the chap's speech impediment? I do understand why you will not answer the question, it would rather put you in a bad light. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2107	Posted - 2014.03.28 12:33:00 - [31] - Quote SKINE DMZ wrote: I'm starting think Salvos and Prince Kobol are Harry Forever/ Divine alts.... someone help me I'm about to send you all my assets willingly, pls dont ask me to sing a song (which I will happily comply to though) and read a document to get it back I mean that **** is torture bro. Perhaps you can help me out here, why was the mark asked to get a dictionary and read out the meaning of some words? It was not 'torture' by any definition as far as I am concerned, but it was, to put it mildly, distasteful. But of course, you already know why, but you choose to ignore it. That was the part of the Bonus Room experience I have an issue with. Ero, still refuses to clarify if he thinks he went too far with this particular issue or not. This is not a signature.